What Car Would Be Worse With A LS Swap?

"S65" (granthp) 08/16/2016 at 23:49 • Filed to: LS SWAP, LS, V8, Engine Swap, Engine Swaps

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I’m thinking a Tesla Model S another electric car.

dogisbadob > S65 08/16/2016 at 23:52

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NOTHING :p

What’s wrong with an LS-swapped Tesla? If you put in an LS9, you’ll still have ludicrous mode :o)

not for canada - australian in disguise > S65 08/16/2016 at 23:52

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Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > S65 08/16/2016 at 23:54

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Miata and other super small underpowered roadsters are made worse by LS swaps. It ruins the whole purpose of the car. A mild-hot turbo (200whp maybe) is about right for a Miata, still maintaining the joy of the car without ruining it with unusable overpowered grunt.

S65 > not for canada - australian in disguise 08/16/2016 at 23:56

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I GUESS

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > S65 08/17/2016 at 00:00

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I think someone is doing a LS Fiskar Karma.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > S65 08/17/2016 at 00:01

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My civic

S65 > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 08/17/2016 at 00:03

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Are you sure

RallyWrench > S65 08/17/2016 at 00:04

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Wait, someone is actually LS swapping a Tesla? Or is that a joke mock-up or ‘shop? Yeah, that’d be worse.

S65 > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 08/17/2016 at 00:05

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I think it would be better that way

Invinciblejets > S65 08/17/2016 at 00:06

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Can’t think of many. I’d say certain super cars...

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > S65 08/17/2016 at 00:14

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Lots of small front wheel drive cars. Between not fitting, weight distribution and torque steer, just not the right equation.

On the opposite end of things, there are fairly few RWD cars that would get worse with a well done LS swap. It’s going to be equal to if not lighter than most other engines it replaces, and have as good as if not better power.

The set of RWD cars that would get worse with an LS swap would probably be cars whose driving characteristics would be ruined, cars whose weight distribution still would be bad, and cars whose identity are tied to their engines(I’m thinking a skyline and the inline six).

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > S65 08/17/2016 at 00:20

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It wouldnt fit

It’d kill you

It’d ruin the weight balance

It’d kill you

And...it’d killyou

MonkeePuzzle > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 08/17/2016 at 00:24

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sure, just assume they meavy chevy LS, not integra ls, which can be a tasty civic swap :p

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > not for canada - australian in disguise 08/17/2016 at 01:32

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I’d take one with an LS3 (if it existed) over one with the LT1.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 08/17/2016 at 02:46

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That’s what I would do, but with the Maserati GT motor, sounds like an Italian angel orgy.

CRider > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 08/17/2016 at 03:33

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Ruined, or fixed?

jimz > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 08/17/2016 at 04:35

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That “someone” is Bob Lutz and they're selling them as the VL Destino.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > S65 08/17/2016 at 04:40

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I think Neil hit the nail on the head with it being worse if the car’s identity is tied up with its powertrain. Mazda rotaries, XJS V12s, E30 M3s etc.

Personally, I’m a bit of an engine swap snob. In general I’m not a fan of an engine swap unless it’s either from the same manufacturer, a manufacturer with a solid connection (could be taken from the corporate parts bin), or has a separate connection (for instance, the Saab B and H engines are developments from the Triumph Slant 4, so a Saab B in a Triumph is good).

It’s not that cars with LS swaps and the like are bad cars at all, but it always strikes me as less impressive: taking the easy road and sacrificing that little spark of brilliance that comes from an engine swap where all the stars align...

random001 > S65 08/17/2016 at 06:48

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No car will not be better with an LSx.

random001 > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 08/17/2016 at 06:51

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I don’t know any FWD cars that couldn’t accept an LS4.

nerd_racing > S65 08/17/2016 at 06:57

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All of them.

bhtooefr > random001 08/17/2016 at 07:19

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Classic Mini?

Of course, there is also always going mid-engine with it...

random001 > bhtooefr 08/17/2016 at 07:26

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It’ll fit! I’m sure of it! Now let me get my sawzall...

Captain of the Enterprise > S65 08/17/2016 at 07:55

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GT350

Arrivederci > S65 08/17/2016 at 08:15

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Let’s see, prolly a Corvette ZR1, C7Z, Dodge Viper, most Ferrari, most Lambo, etc.

BigBlock440 > S65 08/17/2016 at 08:26

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Viper and Hellcat, not too much else. Yes, even a Tesla would be better with an LS swap, and lose half a ton in the process.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > S65 08/17/2016 at 08:57

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A corvette

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 08/17/2016 at 08:59

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But it doesn’t really throw off the weight distribution much. So its just more power with basically no downsides. It is just somewhat expensive but POWAHHH. I mean sure, you might have to use some throttle control and not floor it all the time, but I don’t think that is a bad problem to have.

Just Cars for Joe Bryant > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 08/17/2016 at 09:08

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If they can get big block Chevy’s and Cadillac 500's into a Chevette. You can get a LS into a Civic and no it won’t kill you anymore than when the VTEC kicks in Yo.

But ya, the weight balance would be a “little” off.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > S65 08/17/2016 at 12:57

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Should save a ton of weight and make it a surprisingly lightweight executive sedan. I think it could work.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 08/17/2016 at 13:13

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Those cars would all be improved by having an LS mounted where the back seats are.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 08/17/2016 at 13:14

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Only if you do what Honda keep doing and install the engine in the wrong place.